Wednesday, August 17, 2005

Soldiers are the last line of Liberty's defense: Defending Cpt. Moroni

Recently, Ronan has questioned Cpt. Moroni's righteousness and propensity towards anger, violence and capital punishment.

While the debate is fairly well hashed out, today's WSJ and the anti-troops behavior of Ms. Sheehan have brought new insight to the discussion I believe.

In today's world, U.S. soldiers function as "the last line of defense for the rights of life and liberty" who are "morally obliged" to use lethal force to defend the innocent.

While anachronistic, I don't have a problem projecting this description of our troops onto Cpt. Moroni, his "troops" and the actions he took in putting down the Kingman revolt.

Killing another (is/should be) the most shocking act that one member of God's family can do to another. When it isn't justified, God calls it murder; an unforgivable sin. Since God condones killing, apparently there are some situations (but haven't we been warned against situational ethics? Hm...) where justified. Nephi carried out a justified killing, obeying a 'lawful order' from God.

What about Cpt. Moroni? He has the death of 4,000 Kingman dissenters to answer for. Was he justified? Absolutely, because "killing is morally acceptable when the enemy poses a threat to values worth fighting for, such as life or liberty, and there are no nonlethal options to avoid the threat." We can kibbutz about whether there were nonlethal options available to Cpt. Moroni, but given that _the_ Prophet that God choose to edit the BoM records, Mormon, named his son after the man/general/inspired leader and possibly prophet, I give him the benefit of any doubt that might exist.

Viva Cpt. Moroni. Viva the U.S. Soldiers, fighting for liberty. Shame on those that would seek to throw guilt upon them by claiming their actions were wrong or unjustified.

4 Comments:

Blogger Capt Jack said...

Lyle:

As a former military officer, I can tell you the troops have no problem differentiating between Mrs Sheehan's questioning the motives behind the war and those low-lifes who translate opposition to the war into hatred for those who are carrying in out.

All my friends still on active duty have expressed their feelings on the war in Iraq and with one exception their views are closer to Mrs Sheehan's than they are to yours. Believe me, they aren't confusing criticism of Bush's escapades with the 'baby-killer' nonsense heard after Vietnam.

It's also worth considering what this administration has done to high level officers who have spoken their mind when asked by the press or Congress. Shinseki found out he was retiring from the newspaper, Gen Casey will soon be sent to a dead end job, and the guy in command of TRADOC is being charged with adultery in a case that should have been settled by letting him retire on schedule.

On a different note, Capt Moroni is one of the most believable characters in the BoM, if for no other reason than he is a prototypical General Officer. His screed to Pahoran is a classic; I've had the unfortunate experience of witnessing and being on the receiving end of similar temper tantrums. Let's just say they're not pleasant and don't do much for morale.

3:47 PM  
Blogger jeff g said...

"In today's world, U.S. soldiers function as "the last line of defense for the rights of life and liberty" who are "morally obliged" to use lethal force to defend the innocent."

Who's life and liberty are we protecting? The Iraqiis who we are taking over and killing? That's an interesting perspective.

"When it isn't justified, God calls it murder; an unforgivable sin."

True, that why many a BoM military leader always prohibited the invansion of another land, no matter what the reason. That's when it becomes murder.

4:16 PM  
Blogger John W. Redelfs said...

I believe that if the USA was engaging in war according to the principles of a just war outlined by God in the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, we would have waited until Saddam Hussein actually invaded our country before going to war with him. Instead we launched a preemptive, unprovoked attack on a foreign nation. That is murder in my book, and the top civilian leaders who are responsible for the decision have committed a hideous crime against humanity. And it looks like we are about to do it again by attacking Iran.

But that doesn't mean that our fighting men on the battlefield have anything to be ashamed of. They are heros, in my view. Every nation has to have a military for self-defense. And a military is worthless unless it is disciplined to take orders. The fault for this highly immoral war lies entirely with the civilian leadership and the immoral voters who continue to back them.

I say, three cheers for our fighting men in Iraq. And down with the tyrants who have immorally put them there. Because of them, our brave young men are bravely laying down their lives for an evil cause. I don't believe for an instant that Bush wants to establish freedom in Iraq. Just look at what he is doing to freedom right here in the USA. Freedom obviously means nothing to him. All he wants is power.

2:46 PM  
Blogger Mark N said...

But that doesn't mean that our fighting men on the battlefield have anything to be ashamed of. They are heros, in my view. Every nation has to have a military for self-defense. And a military is worthless unless it is disciplined to take orders. The fault for this highly immoral war lies entirely with the civilian leadership and the immoral voters who continue to back them.

Yes, the military is disciplined to take orders. I just wish they were disciplined enough to be able to discern when those orders should be followed, and when they shouldn't. Many an unnecessary murder might be avoided. But I guess the leaders of the nation really aren't all that interested in having an army capable of such discernment. It's much nicer to have a force at your command that will not question why, but simply goes to do and/or die.

12:14 AM  

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